Waterson NC

Illtempered · 2014-01-04, 04:01 PM

I have to hand it to you, and I never thought I'd say this, but in my book you are now officially the faction to beat during prime-time on the server. With the BR100 club NUC mostly inactive and TR not having the luxury of 40%+ pop, they are not much of a factor now.

We used to feel sorry for NC on Waterson, even though as VS we were very out-popped ourselves. We even went to the trouble of creating NC toons that we could use to rally their troops and defend NC bases when we needed help against the massive TR zerg. It seemed for a while at the beginning the only option on NC was to join the DVS horde who roamed around like a gang, not paying much attention to the big picture, just always on the attack or at some random farm.

Now, NC is just playing better than TR and VS. They are simply allocating the right numbers to the right bases during alerts and doing it faster than everybody else. They have had some truly epic last-second resecures that come to mind lately, and I see their outfits working well together.

VS is getting some lame 4th-faction late-night pop, which I loathe. I like to fight outnumbered, but NC is now the menace on the server during peak hours. As for our outfit, we'll focus on NC as long as this trend continues, and for the most part let TR hide in their hole, and I would recommend other VS outfits do the same. Let the smurf hunt begin. Watch out though. They all have shotguns.

Sarloh · 2014-01-04, 04:32 PM

Yes, attack the VS! Smurfing season is open since 2012!
And the NC is not the menace during peak hours, they are the main course for our weapons.

And it's called a bunker or a base of operations, not a hole!

Chewy · 2014-01-04, 04:43 PM

DVS wasn't a mindless horde. I'll agree that we had massive numbers and that there was almost a platoon online at all times but it wasn't just a zerg outfit.

2-3 times a week DVS had multiple platoon ops and having that much of anything looks like a mess. Yet we broke down the command line and had a chain of command using our TS server. Each platoon had its own channel and each squad had its own sub channel within those platoons. During an OP there was no messing around, no cross talk outside of proxy, no one could use platoon chat that wasn't a leader, and the platoon leaders gave orders to each squad if the job didn't need more than 1-2. There some cat herding depending on who was leading though, I can't deny that as some of use liked that style.

DVS was bigger than most, maybe the biggest back then. But DVS is a very organized gaming community. We aren't merely an outfit, but an entire gaming community and had numbers to start with before PS2 came out.

Illtempered · 2014-01-04, 06:23 PM

I didn't mean to imply DVS was a mindless horde, but some openly admitted to not caring about the big picture. I remember multiple occasions when they were attacking VS when TR had more than 40% server pop and were attacking important NC bases. Usually the reply was "we don't care", "we don't like defense. It's boring." etc.

Boildown · 2014-01-05, 12:43 AM

I love me some shotguns.

Actually I can hardly wait until I Auraxium that thing so I can use something else. But yeah, shotguns.

Lonehunter · 2014-01-05, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Chewy

2-3 times a week DVS had multiple platoon ops and having that much of anything looks like a mess. Yet we broke down the command line and had a chain of command using our TS server. Each platoon had its own channel and each squad had its own sub channel within those platoons. During an OP there was no messing around, no cross talk outside of proxy, no one could use platoon chat that wasn't a leader, and the platoon leaders gave orders to each squad if the job didn't need more than 1-2. There some cat herding depending on who was leading though, I can't deny that as some of use liked that style.

That's all well and good but, none of that helps justify your side. Being organized doesn't mean your effective, it means you're orderly. You can order everyone to get a lightning, or everyone go here, and have discipline on coms, and have multiple platoons, and designated chain of command, and still not have any positive effect on the battlefield. I saw DVS from the inside and nothing happened unless a handful of leaders where on. When something did happen it was just using mass numbers. A huge tank column, a cloud of liberators, the things you hear about from the outfits now remind me of the old PS1 days, truly epic.

Baneblade · 2014-01-05, 09:22 PM

I don't recall a single time I saw DVS do anything useful... PHX on the other hand.

Illtempered · 2014-01-07, 01:55 PM

I certainly didn't intend for this to be a DVS-bashing thread. In fairness, I see DVS officers trying to coordinate on the forums with other outfits, and it seems to have worked.

The point was, NC is a major threat on Waterson, and VS has the pop to make it a good fight. The server is nice and competitive now, apart from TR bleeding out a little. And as much as I miss my OPZOE, I'm glad it was nerfed, because before that it seemed the 4th faction was moving towards VS.

Now before one faction's pop get's out of hand again, I'd love to see timers on faction-switching like we had in Planetside, so it's not so easy, picking the flavor-of-the-night and switching factions.

mrmrmrj · 2014-01-07, 02:14 PM

I think the change to nanoweave has helped NC at the margin. We have harder hitting guns so the change to a percent damage absorption helps. I expect TR and VS will start favoring higher bullet damage weapons over the next few months.

Chewy · 2014-01-07, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Illtempered

I certainly didn't intend for this to be a DVS-bashing thread. In fairness, I see DVS officers trying to coordinate on the forums with other outfits, and it seems to have worked.

The point was, NC is a major threat on Waterson, and VS has the pop to make it a good fight. The server is nice and competitive now, apart from TR bleeding out a little. And as much as I miss my OPZOE, I'm glad it was nerfed, because before that it seemed the 4th faction was moving towards VS.

Now before one faction's pop get's out of hand again, I'd love to see timers on faction-switching like we had in Planetside, so it's not so easy, picking the flavor-of-the-night and switching factions.

Not just DVS is trying to get commnad chat and the outfits working better together.

http://nccommand.com/forum/index.php

You have to apply to read most of those forums and it hasn't seen much traffic as of late but NCC is a conglomerate of NC outfits on Waterson that wanted more out of the game. So we reached out to each other and sat down to have a common forums to share opinions, tactics, and we even had a couple of meetings with up 14 outfits joining in each. DVS, RCN6, DREV, SPV, BLUE, DEOZ, PHX, and BDM to name a few with more that have a representative on the NCC forums. The recordings of some of those meetings should still be on the NCC forums, I got at least 3 still on my PC.

We mainly got sick of being the under-performing faction and went to work to change that. It seems to have paid off. I have even heard rumors that TR on Waterson is thinking of forming their own outfit alliance. Can't say if it is true or not, but if it is. NCC would like to extend its hand to invite any TR representatives to have a talk. Nothing fancy, just a sitdown to get each others opinions and to learn something about our enemies.

Dragonskin · 2014-01-07, 03:15 PM

The 2 NC outfits I seem to be running into all the time in the few days I have been back are PHX (or could be PXP the one TheKoolaidline is in) and TIW. Fun fighting them.

Illtempered · 2014-01-07, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Chewy

Not just DVS is trying to get commnad chat and the outfits working better together.

http://nccommand.com/forum/index.php

You have to apply to read most of those forums and it hasn't seen much traffic as of late but NCC is a conglomerate of NC outfits on Waterson that wanted more out of the game. So we reached out to each other and sat down to have a common forums to share opinions, tactics, and we even had a couple of meetings with up 14 outfits joining in each. DVS, RCN6, DREV, SPV, BLUE, DEOZ, PHX, and BDM to name a few with more that have a representative on the NCC forums. The recordings of some of those meetings should still be on the NCC forums, I got at least 3 still on my PC.

We mainly got sick of being the under-performing faction and went to work to change that. It seems to have paid off. I have even heard rumors that TR on Waterson is thinking of forming their own outfit alliance. Can't say if it is true or not, but if it is. NCC would like to extend its hand to invite any TR representatives to have a talk. Nothing fancy, just a sitdown to get each others opinions and to learn something about our enemies.

This is what 'wins' Planetside, and always has. Outfits, and outfit cooperation get the big things done. It doesn't have to be an official alliance. There just has to be a connection there, a line of communication, a relationship. These are things that take time to develop.

This is one of the things VS on Mattherson really have going for them. Yes they have their share of scrubs, but outfits like GOTR, DARK, DA, AT, etc. have been around working together for nearly a decade.

Artimus · 2014-01-08, 02:19 PM

Hats off to PHX and DREV keeping NC organized even to the pubbies by yelling in proximity Mac1 were are you?

Belhade · 2014-01-09, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Illtempered

This is what 'wins' Planetside, and always has. Outfits, and outfit cooperation get the big things done. It doesn't have to be an official alliance. There just has to be a connection there, a line of communication, a relationship. These are things that take time to develop.

This is one of the things VS on Mattherson really have going for them. Yes they have their share of scrubs, but outfits like GOTR, DARK, DA, AT, etc. have been around working together for nearly a decade.

Isn't NCC active on Mattherson too? I know that TG works closely with the other outfits and believed that it was a 'named' coalition.

Chewy · 2014-01-09, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Belhade

Isn't NCC active on Mattherson too? I know that TG works closely with the other outfits and believed that it was a 'named' coalition.

There was talking of taking NCC world wide. But we decided to stay just as a Waterson conglomerate for now.

There very well could be a Mattherson version. But it isn't this NCC that I know of.