Zergside?

[BaD]

After hours and hours of trying to get in, 4 am est and there were 3000 people still in. First and only battle i participated in was for a base we (tr) were defending against vs.

Now in closed beta, there were some rather big tower battles and every now and again a good base fight but this was just insane. Theres gonna be no tactics and no way to control such massive numbers of people. There had to be 100s on each side everyone just rushing everyone else...To imagine that these battles are gonna be even more kinda make me think what this game is ultimately going to be, and thats just all out skilless war.

I liked it in closed, but now this is what the game will be like in the future, and im not liking what im seeing. You gotta figure in the hundreds of people there about 20 people on each side were sniping everyone else was running around in max's and you had all the people in between. Before me and a friend could usually defend the cc but now its like you need 20 people to guard anything.

From defending that base i felt no accomplishment from holding them off, not like i use to, because in the grand scheme of things 1 person really doesnt make a difference anymore when you look at the amount of people defending and attacking with you.

BaD

[Led]

Welcome to the war!

[Zarparchior]

Can I join plz?

[Baphomet]

Whether or not an individual has an impact on the battle is up to the individual. If you employ proper tactics, taking into account the mindless drove, you'll find yourself doing more than your part. Not that i've actually played for more than 15 minutes, but I think its general enough advice

[Seer]

If you don't want to fight hundreds of people, there are a variety of titles available that pit small squads against each other.

Also, I was playing today on Ceryshen and the continent was basically empty. There are many, many places in the game where the population density is like what you describe. You could always leave Gunuku and go there, yes?

[BaD]

Seer just go someplace else, i mean damn. I just knew thered be somebody to say "go play another game if you dont like it" I know its the weekend but it was 4 am and 3k people imagine how many people would "try" to get on at primetime...

Personally, i dont fight in or around gunuku, havent visited that place in a long time as it was always a big fight. I was on Ishundar which in my experience was never a huge fight because of the terrain. Ceryshan is ok but the terrain makes being an infantryman with a galaxy cert a pain in the ass.

Im liking the way they do the servers, everyones characters seem to carry over to the other realities. Id say prime population for a server would be 1500-2000 people, which is fine for me. My point is if the populations keep growing and people expect 3000 on all the servers, its gonna be a zergfest.

BaD

[1024]

Well, the biggest factor is what continenet you're on. If your on Cyssor, its just gonna be swarm vs swarm. But come over and join us over at oshur and theres almost NO ONE THERE. Cyssor is so populated because they talked about it so much in the beta jounrals.

[DarkDragon00]

hey we (tr) need help on Ishundar. Bef0re all the probs we had the Vanu pushed to their cornor now after, the NC seem to hAVE more territory then us. Or sanc was down and we had only 500 people on our team with no reinforcements coming. All the other empires had above 1000 peeps blasting our asses around each continenet.

look for me in Ishundar, its my fav continent and its about ojne of the 3-4 i have visited. DarkDragon, ill be waiting...

[Hellsfire123]

Seer = Vereran, Bad = Recruit. Heres an idea, you go somewhere else. Theres really way to many recruits in beta. So many people who deserve to get in got shafted.

If you dont like large battles, your really complaining to the wrong people, im sure there are forums for Counterstrike or Unreal somewhere. Just make sure you give you beta away

[FraBaktos]

I'm guessing that if one side of 100 people were able to maintain tactics and the other side kept zerging the side using tactics would win. Just a guess though.

[Seer]

Bad, I'm not trying to be snarky with my suggestion that PS might not be the game for you and your friends. What you're complaining about--really massive battles where the individual, and to some degree his squad, is less significant--is a major design aspect of Planetside. Sure, you might not like it when you're swarmed with maxs, but it will not change. Since the moment this game was conceived people have been asking for massive battles--its safe to say there is a contingent of people that wants to participate in it.

There are likely to be sparsely populated areas where a small squad can make a difference even in the release, and at peak times. You might have to adapt your tactics (i.e. not use a galaxy) to access them, but if you're looking for a small squad experience, that might be the best option.

[ZonemaN]

an hey gues what its BETA! the isnt even out yet and many of the ppl playing beta now are ppl that may not actualy bouy the game but are in just to play a free game for a while. and another thing is that when this game relases ppl are gona be more organised (uh whell i dont actualy know how organised they are now sinse i am not in beta) and the fighting may even be evenly spread out.

[Sarah Jinstar]

I disagree that one can't make a difference when you have that many in a fight. A squad I was in last night was trying to cap a base that was being patrolled by TR reavers and AI maxes, I managed to not only phoenix 2 reavers outta the sky but take out the AI max guarding the control room as well with a whole 5hp to spare.

With those taken care of the tide swung our way and I fell very accomplished to have played a role. So even in big battles, yes there is alot of "zerg" like tactics, but to say that one person can't make a difference just isn't true.

[BaD]

Hellsfire - Let me get this straight hes a veteran poster on one of the fansites so that gives him more right to a beta than me just because i havent posted much? Hmm this is where i tell you plz stfu :/ I didnt come here with a stupid question or a stupid phoenix fix like so many people that dont even know how to spell phoenix its not pheonix fyi. In no way am i complaining about the game, im just voicing concern that this game is gonna be less and less tactics and more and more about population.

Seer - As far as getting around, before the whipe i was using a wraith to get around which isnt so bad. I admit galaxy isnt what you pick to go around solo with. I know people want big battles, but i get a sense that the devs are trying to break some guinness world record or something like with their megapatch. I know people want big battles, but when is a big battle too big? 100 people on each side? 500? I can tell you right now getting a squad to do anything together and to listen is a pain, if you have friends or a clan/outfit then it makes it easier. But when you gotta figure that you need 100s of people to do take over bases, theres not gonna be a lot of coordination past "attack so and so" I mean seriously here, how many outfits do you think there are gonna be with the amount of people required to take a highly trafficed area? There might be one big clan/outfit like that per side.

The communication between that many people is very difficult especially during an attack considering you cant broadcast in an enemy soi right now. They talk about platoons being implemented soon but you gotta imagine at that fight last night there were probably 3 or 4 platoons worth of people just defending.

I dont mind the scale of the game being huge, but huge isnt always better, especially if the tools to communicate and to direct the masses isnt even there yet.

BaD

[Duilin]

zergs suck, and if this game devolves into zergs everywhere I wont buy it.