BETA vs PRODUCTION ++

Dovieye · 2003-04-21, 06:38 AM

Im new to all this stuff. So forgive my stupidness.

But does Beta just roll on into production when it arrives.

And I mean all the people are maxed out on there highest qualities. and just roll into the game on there FREE copy of beta.

And one more thing is there going to be cheaters in this game that we will pay monthly for?

Just like CS Because if there is FUCK YOU SOE STICK YOUR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ UP YOUR ASS.

Well I already know my views will go unnoticed. so I wont go about the other shit that bothers me.

Rod

Homicide · 2003-04-21, 07:09 AM

I don't think you deserve an answer.

FYI: if you want to ask a question don't be a total ASS hole about it and people WILL help you.

Lanizer · 2003-04-21, 07:23 AM

I'm PRETTY sure that beta player does not roll over.

Every game has cheater, but I'm sure SOE will do their best to minimize it.

Dovieye · 2003-04-21, 07:26 AM

LOL

OK GEEK

WHO doesnt have an answer but to winge about a question he has no purpose in answering because he has no answer.

GOOD one and what did I say wrong. what FUCK YOU SOE in advance to CHEATERS being on PS. Well hey thats if there is cheaters.

Hey sorry for popping your cheating bubble.

ITs just not right.

I represent GOODNESS. YET GET PUT DOWN. by WHO????

nice first post HOMO.

I give up already I'll see you on the END OF MY SCOPE.

Dovieye!!!!! dont forget it. HOMOCIDE

Gerico · 2003-04-21, 07:34 AM

Dovieye, nice attitude problem you have there.

Dovieye · 2003-04-21, 07:51 AM

Ok maybe I should start again.

Thanks lanizer for the direct answer.

Ive been waiting for this game for 3 years now. and just recently buying a copy of CS to buy time before PS arrives. well after a good 2 weeks to work out how the game actually worked online. I mean I almost gave up trying to get it to work before I found out I had to download some 90 megs of a patch. then had to get all seeing eye. well I was STOKED to be playing a 4 year old.

But when playing this game I couldnt help but notice in EVERY SINGLE MATCH someone would accuse others of cheating. I never thought anything of it and just thought my slow connection was the reason. ive been playing for 3 weeks now and even I have been accused for cheating.

I then found out that you can just download a program to give instead headshots and see through walls. Well why the FUCK would you bother.

and if FUCK knows how many PROFESSIONAL PROGRAMMERS cant make an encrypted code that some poor ass hacker cant read then there is something wrong there.

especially at the end of the day your handing over money to pay for the service its just wrong to be cheated.

I admit I know almost nothing about anything when it comes too technical.

Hell even my mouse roller is hard to use

I would have love to give you the rest of my life story but answering the question with some support was to much to ask for.

Dovieye

Peanut · 2003-04-21, 07:53 AM

Dovieye:

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

Seabass03 · 2003-04-21, 07:56 AM

What movie is that from Peanut? I always forget, haha

unbeliever · 2003-04-21, 07:57 AM

heh, cute attitude

anywho, all mmog games i have followed to date have had toon wipes before release. there are occasions where beta testers got some additional perks (in the same way at times people who preorder get perks), but to date, all games normally take on a pwipe.

next, cheating. SoE doesnt have a very clean nor reassuring way of dealing with cheaters in EQ. however, it would be safe to assume with SWG and PS rolling out the door they will attempt to improve their customer support attitude to meet the high standards mythic entertainment has set.

as with most mmogs where a monthy fee is involved, there will most probably be people investigating various issues such as exploits and third party apps. what their policy on these will be will be defined in the ToS that you sign.

so yeah, its safe to assume they will crack down on cheaters, but how effectivly and with what policies is to my knowledge not been revealed yet.

PS is not counter strike, there have been many fps games between here and then and many have implemented new ways to thwart cheaters. this game has the added advantage of a dedicated team following the game. with the active involvment on their part and constant patches dealing with new cheats, meh, it shouldnt be much of an issue. tho keep in mind, no mmog yet has managed to completly wipe out cheaters.

gah, must cut back on coffee

Thrik · 2003-04-21, 08:02 AM

Do you not think that game developers would stamp out cheating if they could?

CS has way too many cheaters, yes. But the people who own Counter-Strike are CONSTANTLY updating a program called "VAC" that detects and bans cheaters from all servers with the program enabled. The owners don't simply make the game "Uncheatable" because they can't. No matter how foolproof and hard-coded your game is, hackers will always find a way to get around it.

All the Planetside people can do is take cheat accusations seriously and investigate each one (I believe this should come as a service since we're paying), make the game difficult to gain a SERIOUS advantage in by cheating (in CS for example being able to see through walls in a huge advantage, while in Tribes 2 it will merely shock the enemy, they still have a chance to kill you thanks to the higher damage threshold/etc).

Yup.

Dovieye · 2003-04-21, 08:11 AM

Thanks unbeliever

Its good enough but also NOT good enough. pretty sad really but hey I guess if you have the power its only human to use it. Weve proved that all to many times.

Peanut You are a FUCKEN RETARD. READ IT AGAIN. makes sense to me.

I did not ask bad questions nor did I give shit to anyone prior to getting shit.

I asked a few questions and after pointed out my Views and EVERYONE elses views on cheating.

Then If that wasn't enough I had to back myself up with a lame ass story of my first 3 weeks of counter strike which im currently serving.

So how about thinking before engaging. PEOPLE DIE LIKE THIS.

drsomewhere · 2003-04-21, 08:13 AM

THIS IS NOT CS, NOR IS IT ANYTHING LIKE CS, if people cheat in PS they will get their account banned. This is different from CS because if you cheat in CS you only get banned from one server and there are thousands more.

Dovieye · 2003-04-21, 08:18 AM

Thats the justice I want to hear.

Although ive never played EQ or know what its about. But isnt this the same setup where you have a monthly fee and there is still mentioned cheaters.

Is this the same or are we all kidding ourselfs

ObnoxiousFrog · 2003-04-21, 08:19 AM

You hear about the glory days of PSU?
You hear about the people who are tainting PSU from its former glory?

Well, Dovieye is the kind of person they're talking about.

Kilgs · 2003-04-21, 08:25 AM

Dov- Nice use of English in attempting to get a coherent response. Not to mention insulting people for pointing the vehement nature of your ridiculous post.

1. There IS a COMPLETE wipe of all characters and worlds before Beta. They have told us it will come about a week to two before release.

2. No game is hack-free. However, you pay monthly and that helps to pay for active cheat investigation. SOE has made it very clear that they will not tolerate cheating.

3. As there are no target boxes in PS, such as Head or Body, it seriously limits the efficacy of cheats out there. Yeah, people will come up with them... but hopefully SOE is there to do something about it.

4. Try and at least be civil. These are forums, not your Mom's trailer park.

Be seeing you... ;-)