Sweeper shotgun/Fletchette Rifle

[Gerico]

Can't remmember which ones the official name, but how good is this gun? Can't see many posts saying its any use or it sucks to high heaven, seems like an under used gun..anyone shed some light on this?

[WNxUndeadFenix]

i dunno, i used it in VR and it didnt help much cuz its only close range. tahts prolly why not many ppl use it

[Deadlock]

from other posts i understand its a good room clearing weapon... not quite a tr chaingun, but good none the less

[Derfud]

Good for close encounters if you are going into a base.

[Deadlock]

while we're on shotguns... jackhammer fixed yet or does it still suck stinkin goat eggs?

[simba]

well is the name sweeper or flechette? Or is both okay?????
and a bit off questions, if its okay. but still weapon Q:s.
1.Is the flechette rifle better than the punisher overall?
2.supressor, u think its a good medic weapon?
3.The supressor holds 30 ammo:s per clip, right?
4.And does every 3x3 ammo clip for the supressor hold only 30 ammo? Coz that would suck.
5.is there any good weapon combos, as 1 for long range and one for short, As flechett+cycler, flechette+supressor, supressor+cycler or flechette+punisher, which one is the better combo of thoose?
6.Does the punishers rocklet ammo do good dmg VS vehicles? Coz I would h8 wasting 3 cert points at a AV cert.
Just so I dont have 2 make a new thread just for some questions.

Thankyou.

[ghideon]

The sweeper is a very good weapon in close combat. In fact, I carry it all the time and keep it loaded with AP ammo for use against maxes. The surpressor IMO wasn't that great. I suppose if you are a medic early on and don't spend cert points for the med assault (ie sweeper, punisher and the empire specific weapon) then it's your only bet. It is accurate, however, due to the lack of recoil.

[Ouroboros]

Each 9mm ammo box holds 50 rounds. Punisher, Supressor, Empire specific rifles except for the Vanu Pulsar, all pistols except for the NC MAG-Scatter, all use that ammo.

Sweeper Shotgun is a close ranged weapon. Most people use it with AP rounds for up close with MAXs. The Punisher is more of a medium ranged rifle, not all that great compared to Gauss or Cycler.

Yes, Supressor holds 30 bullets per clip.

Weapon combo is your choice. Nothing really beats anything else. Some people are good with one combo and some are good with another.

Punisher rockets are, um, useless. They work better against infantry then armored units. Same with the Rocklet. It's worthwhile to get the AV weapon cert. If you are TR, you get lock on, very good in my opinion. If you are NC, you get fly by wire, which is the bane of all the other Empires.

Sorry, I did not go in order.

[Vash]

The Sweeper's probably the best CQB weapon the NC has access to. The Jackhammer sounds great on paper, but the spread on it is so insane, you cant even fight someone on the bottom of the stairs.

Complaints about the jackhammer aside...
the Sweeper's just a great gun
At ranges around 6 meters, it only takes 3-4 shots to kill a guy in reinforced armor, and the spread's tight enough to make someone pretty unhappy from the other side of one of the large basement rooms.
It's also pretty effective against MAXes like the other guys have mentioned. It takes like 20 AP rounds in close range to kill one, so just one guy can really soften one up, and a few squadmates teaming up on one can cause the big guy serious problems

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Simba:

The sweeper isnt really better or worse than the punisher. The shotgun is for CQB and the punisher's good for medium range. It's kinda hard to use it indoors... it's pretty easy to blast a teammate you didnt see with a grenade.
As a side note, I'd stay stick to the frag and plasma nades. They're much more effective than the rockets, at least in my opinion.

The supressor's a good little gun too. It takes more shots to kill than an assault rifle, but it's really accurate even on the move. If you wanted to go straight for medical certs, the supressor will serve you well for quite a few levels

As for weapon combos, you take what you like best for whatever the situation calls for.
Like, I've got a setup with the Gauss(200rnds) and a Phoenix (12rnds) for when I expect to see lots of vehicles or maxes.
I've got one with a Punisher(200-250rnds, and like 48 frag grenades) and a Phoenix(3rnds) for my general purpose setup... great for when I dont know what I'm going to be fighting.
I've also got one dedicated to CQB, with two sweepers. I'll keep one loaded with AP rounds if I expect to see MAXes, or both with standard rounds if there's just infantry left. Switching weapons is faster than reloading or changing ammo types

[simba]

hehe, I like the 2 flechette thingie . ill try that with a supressor if its good enough, do u think flechette and supressor combo is good?
And how much can u heal from one medical applicator?
And it seems like EVERYONE has an AV cert, WHY!??! Everyone in WWII didnt have anti-tank or similar stuff on themselfes whereever they go, I think my teammates can carry AV weapons, I dont want to anyway, it takes up to much space 4 my Medical Applicators .
Every1 in NC seems 2 have gauss and pheonix.
Also do u really need that much ammo that everyone carries? Everyone seem to carry like 500 rounds gauss and 30 rouns pheonix, is that really nessecarly?
Cant u just carry 150 rounds AP and normal in the cycler? I will if thats enough.

[Vash]

Sure, the sweeper's more effective in close range than the supressor.

And this isnt WWII
Vehicles and MAXes can annihilate an unprepared squad, so why not have the option of taking them out faster? After all, your 150 AP rounds in your rifle only have the potential to kill 2 MAXes, and I seriously doubt they'll just stand there and take it


Anyway, the little medkits heal 25 health and have a short re-use timer. I'm not exactly sure what it is though... around 3-5 seconds I think.

Ammo goes quick as well. I make it a point to have at least 200 extra rounds for my gauss or punisher, otherwise I run out far too soon in a big battle

Also, everyone in NC seems to have a Gauss because you have to take Medium Assault to get any other weapon certs.
Everyone seems to have a Phoenix because our Heavy Assault weapon sucks. Why not use those points for a good weapon instead?

[Vis Armata]

I had a Sweeper setup that I loaded with AP rounds for MAXes, but it just didnt work so well for me.

[Hamma]

Shotgun w/AP rounds = ownage on a MAX

[Hijinks]

Sweeper for 2 certs (and you get a gauss for free!) > jackhammer for 4.

[simba]

Originally posted by Vash
Sure, the sweeper's more effective in close range than the supressor.

And this isnt WWII
Vehicles and MAXes can annihilate an unprepared squad, so why not have the option of taking them out faster? After all, your 150 AP rounds in your rifle only have the potential to kill 2 MAXes, and I seriously doubt they'll just stand there and take it


Anyway, the little medkits heal 25 health and have a short re-use timer. I'm not exactly sure what it is though... around 3-5 seconds I think.

Ammo goes quick as well. I make it a point to have at least 200 extra rounds for my gauss or punisher, otherwise I run out far too soon in a big battle

Also, everyone in NC seems to have a Gauss because you have to take Medium Assault to get any other weapon certs.
Everyone seems to have a Phoenix because our Heavy Assault weapon sucks. Why not use those points for a good weapon instead?

lol so everyone HAVE to have a AV? HAHAHAHAHA wot a joke.
I hope they will change that or this game will suck.
150 AP ammo ONLY takes out to maxes? Thats not only.
One medical applicator heals 25hp:s? Wtf is the matter with SOE!?!?
LoL didnt they say that "we wont have any huge mechs so dont expect to live after a minute" or something like that. Omg in a big fight u shouldent even live for 25 seconds without cover.
This make me not wanna buy this game, takes 200 shots to kill someone.
This sux more than anything, so medics or engineers dont have anything to do with this game huh? Since u have to use all ur inventory for ammo, haha that sux. Only another fighter game like CS or Quake....