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Old 2003-04-27, 05:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Just wondering if anyone agreed with me


Does anyone agree that the Vanu MAX is overpowered?

I mean, the Vanu went from underpowered to overpowered IMO because of the MAX

Here's why I think the MAX is over powered:
A) I've been able to kill NC MAXs and TR MAXs solo but have never killed a Vanu MAX (from full HP) by myself (btw I'm using a Cycler w/ AP rounds)
B) The Jump Jets allow them to get ANYWHERE they want (well as long as it's not behind a locked door)
C) When they jump they jump high enough that when u aim up you can't reach them (ur crosshair cause of some limit thing) but their crosshair can reach you
D) Their weapons take away much from AR and HP, unlike the others
E) Their weapons also fire very fast (since they can't be locked down, wouldn't it make sense for them to fire slowly?)
F) In the other MAX kinds you have to specialize to get the best efficiency out of the MAX against a certain unit, in Vanu MAXs it's one size kills all
G) At long range they're still pretty accurate even going full auto
H) To boot all the AA MAX has a missile to take down air units very easily, as well as it's infantry gun (hey it works just as effectively as the AI MAX)

And I'm sure there's more reasons that I just forgot about or haven't noticed yet, but I honestly think Vanu MAX is over powered

Also yes I have played as one to just make sure I'm not blowing steam and even after playing around with Vanu MAX I still think it's overpowered

Anyone else think so?
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Old 2003-04-27, 05:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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nope, my NC anti armor max owned them every time, I can take on any other max with it and win no problem, even took on a vanu anti inf and vant anti armor and dest both and still had about 10 armor left and still got one more inf b4 a reaver took me out...

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Old 2003-04-27, 05:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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I'm a part of the Terran Republic. Most Vanu MAXs are morons that expect the jump boost they have to save their asses 100% of the time. I keep my Striker awfully close when fighting Vanu in a battle and when I see a MAX its straight to secondary fire mode. Four rockets from the Striker will kill a MAX that was previously unscathed and the best part is they've got lock-on targeting.
 
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Old 2003-04-27, 06:22 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Nah. I've just finished up testing all 3 MAX's. They all seem to function pretty much the same. I enjoy the Terran dual-cycler and the NC Falcon the most. Although I think the jump special ability the vanu have is the most useful.
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Old 2003-04-27, 06:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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nope, my NC anti armor max owned them every time, I can take on any other max with it and win no problem, even took on a vanu anti inf and vant anti armor and dest both and still had about 10 armor left and still got one more inf b4 a reaver took me out...
- See? NERF NC!!!

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Old 2003-04-27, 06:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Vanu has the best weaponry in my opinion but they lack something that I cannot put my finger on.
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Old 2003-04-27, 09:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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yes the weapons for the vanu MAXes should be a little little bit better compared to the other empires MAXes imo.
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Old 2003-04-27, 10:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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y is that? Just because they have energy weps doesnt mean they sohuld do more damage. I think it des have to many advantages ON PAPER. I dont have beta and it looks to me that the lock on feture gives it a huge advantage. Tone it down a bit on its ability to track mabye?
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Old 2003-04-27, 10:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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I still think that Vanu have the best AI max, that doesn't mean it needs nerfed though. The weapon on that thing is super accurate, even at 200m away it can peg you. Personally when I see a VS AI max I get worried, when I see an NC AI max I stop, ready the striker, sit down, minimize the game, browse a little PSU, come back, shoot 3 times, reload, shoot again, kill MAX and move on. For a striker user you can sit so far out of the range of that NC MAX shottie that it's funny, but a VS AI max can still tag your ass if you start firing rockets.

As far as being able to solo AI max with a cycler+AP, that is just bogus. The idea of the AI max is to rip through little cycler carrying infantry like yourself with little problem.

Anyway, I think the MAX must be relatively balanced, because depending on who you ask, you'll get a different story of which one is the weakest and which one is the strongest every time you ask someone different.
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Old 2003-04-27, 01:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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i use the NC anti-armor max as an AI max most of the time, works rather well so long as you hit them (but downing reavers that just sit still and shoot is the coolest )

The AI max for the TR and the NC are way to short range to be good anywhere outside a base, but their Anti Armor ones do a good job at inf anywhere
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Old 2003-04-27, 01:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Originally posted by NullSig
Vanu has the best weaponry in my opinion but they lack something that I cannot put my finger on.
The keyboard?
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Old 2003-04-27, 01:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Vanu has the best weaponry in my opinion but they lack something that I cannot put my finger on.
A color blind armor designer?
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Old 2003-04-27, 01:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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The VS MAX is the best because of that little prancing strafe animation it has.
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Old 2003-04-27, 02:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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The idea of the AI max is to rip through little cycler carrying infantry like yourself with little problem.
well duh, if you run at it face to face of course the MAX will rip through you

That's why you circle around them, so they can't get behind you (and you can turn much faster then they can)

But see you can't do this against the vanu max cause all it has to do is hit it's jump jets and ur SOL
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Old 2003-04-27, 02:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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I don't buy the strafe thing. A decent AI MAX will cream a cycler user any day of the week 1 on 1 no matter what.
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