Once more into the TK, my friends

[Airlift]

Ok, so last night Hijinks and I were in a two man squad contributing to the defense of Helheim on Esamir (Dalton, Vanu), with two or three others. We were just killing time until more people from STFU logged on, when low and behold there was someone whining their ass off about the game being unplayable without "certain settings", making it unfair and shitty. Don't ask me what it meant, but of course after a few minutes of spamcasting, Jinks interjects "It's not the game, I think you just suck". He's got a delicate touch, that Hijinks, but he was absolutely right.

Cut to a few minutes later and I spawn in my AMS, which is set up in the courtyard. As I'm preparing to hurl myself once more at the NC MAXes trying to keep a hack upstairs, I accidentally run to the wrong end of my AMS and undeploy it for a moment. Noticing my mistake right away, I redeploy the AMS and go equip. Hijinks is complaining to me that someone is undeploying my AMS and he goes around to the front end at the same time the shitfisting whiner does, and they both go to redeploy it (even though I had just done so). Of course, they both do and it undeploys and redeploys in rapid succession.

Sogar (the whiner) then turns without a word and TKs Hijinks, obviously thinking that he was maliciously undeploying a friendly AMS in the courtyard of a contested base.

Hijinks (over TS): WTF? I think I just got TKed.
Me: Yep. Hold on a minute.
<shot gun blasts> + 50 Grief
Me: Ok, so much for the TK.

This raises an eyebrow of the other guy who was near the AMS at the time, but he says nothing and continues watching. I also stand around and wait, to see what Sogar will do next. Of course, he immediately starts shooting me with his Suppressor.
<shot gun blasts> + 20ish Grief

Me: Well, got him again, he's trying to take me down.
Hijinks: Forget it, we should leave. He's just pissed that the game doesn't play well for him and is trying to ruin it for others.
Me: Yeah, I guess.

Of course, by this time he spawns again at my AMS and now rushes me with his knife.
<shot gun blasts> +20ish grief

So I immediately pack up the rig and drive it away, now ignoring the fact that this base is in enemy hands and about to fall to them. The guy who was watching now is really confused and says "WTF are you doing?"

Me: He TKed my squadmate. For that, death and he can fuck off.
Some other guy: Thanks

So I drive my truck to the next nearest base under attack and set up there. We broke the hack there while Helheim fell to the NC assault (about half a squad of them).

A few minutes later, and we're back at Helheim to help take the base back. I don't know what had happened in the time we were gone (other than a long walk overland for Sogar after I undeployed the only relatively close spawn point), but the first thing we see when we get back into the SOI was a kill message of Sogar, being TKed by yet another random guy (whose name escapes me). I can only speculate that Sogar finally found enemies he could take with the "settings" he plays under or whatever. Unfortunately, he was nearly as bad at TK as he was at killing proper targets, because this guy waxed him too.

[Hijinks]

Well, when I said he sucked I did add ''

It wasn't a 1/2 squad attacking either and they weren't in maxes. There was 2 or 3 of them. They were damn good though, which I think is where the guys frustation came from.

[LesserShade]

I tell ya, I bet I have accumulated more grief from blasting TKers off my squad mates than the TKers have gathered from attempting to TK :/

[Baphomet]

I havent personally encountered much TK at all, actually. I occaisionally get wiped out by a vehicle or some stray shot or something, but for the most part the general populous has been pretty agreeable. Lord help us when it goes gold though =X

[Airlift]

It wasn't a 1/2 squad attacking either and they weren't in maxes.

Except that I was killed by a MAX, who must've been there

[Feign]

I play NC and have not encountered any TKing at all. Aside from the ocasional running down of someone, not once have I seen anyone intentionally take down another member of our faction. I think the TRs and Vanu hate themeselves as much as they should.

=)

[mistled]

Great story guys.

I haven't had any grief or tk problems lately. The weirdest grief thing I had happen was last week. I was standing still (looking at my inventory I think), wearing an infil suit, with no weapon drawn, and got 4 grief points out of nowhere. There wasn't even anyone else on my screen. I've still got no clue what happened.

[LesserShade]

I love it when I get grief because someone ran their harasser into me >:/

[Grunt]

I just picked up over 100 points yesterday because some people who I'm guessing were new to the beta because of the fileplanet thingy decided to run right in front of my vanguard pulling off the pad. They had stood near the front side of it, just watching while I waited in line..... then once I hop in and start moving I suppose they thought to gun or something... I ended up killing 2 of them!

That just sucks. It's hard enought not running into stuff/peeps in a big battle as it is...lol.

[Feign]

I once took out a Reaver which fell on someone from my team, killing them, and giving me +25 Grief.

Ever looked up just in time to see a flaming Galaxy fall on you?

[Croco]

I really hope this griefment system will stay in PS. It's frustrating to those who wana TK and destroy the day for other players but great for the rest of us who are in the majority. I wana fight soliders from enemy empires and not all the time be worried that people of my own empire will go and TK me.

[Sentrosi]

Yeah, heaven help us when this goes gold.

I thought that all the beta testers had to be 18. I guess there are ways around even the age barrier. Then again, most 18 year olds I know aren't mature enough to handle saying the word "condom", let alone actually working on making this game good.

/me dislikes whiners.

[aiwest420]

interesting story...

in the time ive played PS(1 week), i've been tked maybe 3 times, doubt any of em were on purpose. :O

[Angelos]

I had someone join my squad who after a couple minutes began whining about the darklight implant being imbalanced. This guy obviously wanted stealthers to be like gods from the way he talked about it. I kept telling him he was a moron and just wanted it to be more unbalanced for the stealthers and that plenty of exp'd and good stealthers wanted the darklight as it is, since it was the only thing that could kill them. Well needless to say he left. We didn't invite him into the squad so he could whine to us..


Has anyone reported the bug on the beta forums about getting grief when ran over by someone? I know what the problem is, it's not really a bug. You do damage to a vehicle if it hits you. So naturally, you are getting grief for damaging the person's vehicle when they run you over. But if they are friendly, we shouldn't get any grief.... Just yesterday I was squatting, not moving, firing at the enemy. I had been there for a couple minutes. And some dude in a buggy comes flying at me and plows me. Don't even tell me he couldn't see me or avoid me....

If you are on Johari/Vanu, catch me in the sanctuary flying at top speed afterburners glowing 2 feet off the ground. And I won't hit a single person either.

[Croco]

Well most griefers in other FPS games are more than often very young players who have a hard time killing enemies because they suck so much. It's easier to kill your own team than players of enemy team. That's the way it is, but it's nothing we can do about except game companies who can create rules how to deal with this. I think SOE have done a great job regarding this. Everyone will from time to time by accident kill and damage people of their own squad, but pure griefers tends to do it more often because of their bad and lousy day.