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Old 2003-05-05, 07:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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regular ammo vs ap ammo


I just started playing the beta this weekend and forgive me if this is answered somewhere else. I've been doing as much reading as I can to learn the game.

My question is about regular ammo and armor piercing ammo. The description for the regular says it is better against soft targets and the ap description says it is better against armored and vehicles. Does the ap ammo do significantly less damage against soft targets? Is there any real reason I should haul around both of them as opposed to just loading up on the ap ammo?
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Old 2003-05-05, 07:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Regular ammo is best used against all infantry. AP ammo is mainly for MAX units and Vehicles as you read. From what I've seen, AP focuses on an enemies armor before health is taken away. Regular ammo will do damage to both in the same shot. AP ammo isn't that useful to me since I carry a Striker for my MAX hunting needs.

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Old 2003-05-05, 07:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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bah, I dont even carry AP ammo... no use for it...
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Old 2003-05-05, 07:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Simply put. AP ammo does next to nothing in damage vs. Infantry. It only works well against MAXs, and vehichles. On the other hand. Normal ammo does next to nothing against the other types of armour. So make sure you are always carrying a bit of both.
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Old 2003-05-05, 08:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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If the newest character creator is correct, reinforced in my opinion should beable to carry more stuff. I don't understand how you can be a worthy infantryman and still have the room for hacking or combat engineering or being a medic.

According to the character creator i can only take this in reinforced armor:
Gauss
3 9mm clips AI
Mag Scatter
1 Shotgun Shells box
Phoenix
No extra phoenix rockets

So, I would be effective at long range, pretty effective at short range, and 1 phoenix rocket which isn't near enough to take down anything. So I wouldn't even beable to be an effective versatile infantryman without hacking/medical/engineering. Basically all i'd beable to kill is infantry, so why not just get an ai max instead? costs less certs.

edit: I can also get 3 grenades, big deal though..
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Old 2003-05-05, 08:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Old 2003-05-05, 08:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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did you check and make sure it put the weapons in there holsters and not just the invo?
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Old 2003-05-05, 08:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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I don't think many people run around with AP rounds in their gun so let's say you are cruising around with your regular ammo loaded and suddenly you open a door and BAM, a fat MAX is right in your path. BOOM BOOM you are dead. No big deal just spawn again. Point of the story is if you come upon a MAX and are close enough to shoot him with AP rounds, chances are he is gonna kill you before you load them and maybe you'll do 10 or 20 damage to a 650 armor guy. Wow AP rounds are really useless
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Old 2003-05-05, 08:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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How good are frag grenades against maxs? How are they againt the big tanks?
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Old 2003-05-05, 09:09 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally posted by Venoxile
If the newest character creator is correct, reinforced in my opinion should beable to carry more stuff. I don't understand how you can be a worthy infantryman and still have the room for hacking or combat engineering or being a medic.

According to the character creator i can only take this in reinforced armor:
Gauss
3 9mm clips AI
Mag Scatter
1 Shotgun Shells box
Phoenix
No extra phoenix rockets
That creator must be bugged...

In my loadout, I carry a med device, an armor thingy, a jackhammer, and a phoenix in holsters. In my inventory I have one thing of med thingy ammo stuff, and one for the BANK. Two boxes of phoenix rockets, three medkits, a REK, and three boxes of shotshells.

PS: MAGAZINE, not CLIP, dangit!
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Old 2003-05-05, 09:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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AP ammo is useful if you can't/won't carry an AV weapon around. If you have an AV weapon then obviously it's of little use. But trust me if you only have a gun it's very much worth it to drag along at least just 1 crate.
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Old 2003-05-05, 09:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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PS: MAGAZINE, not CLIP, dangit!
Led do you know how powerfule Gernades are? I really want to be a thumper and shoot gernades. Do you like gernades? I love gernades. I could just say gernades all day long!

gernades, gernades, gernades, gernades, gernades, gernades
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Old 2003-05-05, 10:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Old 2003-05-05, 10:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Old 2003-05-05, 10:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Wow, that was pretty funny. I think I might have to join the New Comglomerate just to hang out with people as silly as Led.

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