Heavy Vehicle Assault? my Foot

[Gilgamesh]

So I,am scrimping and saving my points to get the Lancer. I knew what it would do from the training building where you can try out the different weapons on different targets.

I got it finally, and it worked great, its very accurate aiming and power made it good for sharp shooting, use that range magnifier implant and wow.

So what am I complaining about? it aint worth crap now, they must have lowered the power on it on Tuesdays patch, I emptied 3 boxes of ammo point blank on a sunderer, and it still didnt blow.

This is supposed to be the most powerful anti Vehicle weapon you can carry, and its about as strong as Medium assault weapon now.

The Devs have made Vanu weapons and armour useless now. Is this the way they plan on "Balancing" in other words if everytime one Empire starts advancing too much are they going to lower the weapons strength and make there armour like plastic wrap?

I plan on buying the game, but if the devs start making me weaker just because my empire plays well, then I'll cancel right there on the spot. I chose Vanu and expected them to be the underdogs, I know there stuff is a little weaker than the other empires, I want and enjoy the challange, But now you empty your whole inventory of the "most powerful" weapon on a medium target and it dont do squat.

[Warborn]

That sounds about right. Sunderers are insanely armored, and it'd take way more than 3 clips from ANY Empire-specific AV weapon to take out out. I fired 9 Strikers at one last night and it didn't blow (although it was pretty damaged). A MAX guy in my Outfit ended up bolting down and unloading into it with dual-cyclers to finish it off.

So, don't complain until you use Terran or NC weapons in the same situations.

*EDIT*

Oh, and 9 Strikers is 3 clips (Strikers come in clips of 3 shots).

[MrVulcan]

ya, sunders just wont die, I had 5 people fireing phoneix rounds into one, and only after several from each of us did it die.

[Ouroboros]

You do realize the Lancer is the worst empire specific AV weapon right?

[Shadowsword8]

I don't think so.
Lancer's AV capabilities seem equivalent to a Phoenix or Striker, and I learned painfully that a Lancer is also very good against infantry.

[LesserShade]

Unless they tweaked damage it appeared to me that the lancer had been about half as powerful as a striker, but each clip contains 6 rounds compared to the striker's 3? (am I right here? I don't use the lancer all that often).

To be honest, I gank lancers for use as a ranged AI weapon rather than AV.

[Deadlock]

yeah, i was blasting away at a sunderer last night with a pheonix and the damn thing wouldnt die, ur guns not broke, its just the car's a god... but thats the way it should be, its an armored troop transport for chirsts sake, its suposed to get u there in one piece.

[Destroyeron]

it's a giant modified garbage truck with 5 inch thick titanium plating, thats how I think of it, and thats how I'll take down, with everything I have, including myself if need be.

[Seer]

You, an infantryman that can spawn extremely close to the battle inside 30 seconds after your death, are not supposed to be able to snap your fingers and destroy a vehicle that took, minimum, 5-7 minutes in transit. Of course you can expect to blow almost your entire AV inventory, which for me is 5 lancer magazines, and not kill a heavy tank, Sunderer, or AMS. The best way to counter these things is with other vehicles.

[�io]

The sunderer needs some change IMO though. I don't know how many of those things i see with only a driver and the 2 gunners. It kinda makes tanks useless.

[Sputty]

Indeed. They've become tanks.

[Ubernator]

Maybe take off the 75mm cannons and slap on a couple 20mm cannons like on the Deliverer. It would be quite hard to hit targets close to the Sunder, but then again the vehicle in itself is not supposed to kill everything in sight. That's the job of the infantry when they jump out at the insertion point.

I do like its armor the way it is though. The game becomes a bit more fast-paced when people are somewhat confident that they wont die in a large transport.

Just limit its tank-like abilities. And no, the Sunderer is not a modified garbage truck. It is really 1337 cause it looks like Optimus Prime!

[Zarparchior]

If the Deliverer guns were reduced in damage (ate through me reinforced in two seconds and a MAX in 5), they should make it a 2 cert vehicle. I rarely see them used as is...

But when they are... FEAR THEM INFANTRY!