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Old 2003-05-09, 11:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Middle Earth Online Announced


I remember being really upset when i heard that MEO was cancelled by sierra?(not sure). But here is some info i stumbled upon on gamespy today

Middle Earth Online Coming Tomorrow - Warrior

Vivendi Universal will be announcing Middle Earth Online for the PC sometime tomorrow. We've got some early details, but all we can officially say now is that it is expected to be released in 2004. The game will be shown behind closed doors at E3 and we will be on hand for a preview. Stay tuned to GameSpy for all the latest info.


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Old 2003-05-09, 12:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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LOTR = boring

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Old 2003-05-09, 12:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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They are just now announcing it and it will be released in 2004? Are they nuts? Unless they have been secretly developing it for the passed year, there is no way they can get a quality game out the door that fast. Unless they are thinking like Q4 2004.

Besides, I'm not sure how a good game can be made out of the Middle Earth universe and not seem like it's just bleeding the name for all it's worth (similar to what they are doing with SW:G).

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Old 2003-05-09, 12:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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It's Seirra.

They haven't made a bug free game since Kings Quest. Seriously. After the mess that was Tribes 2, and then the problems with Empire Earth I've come to the conclusion that Serria dosen't care about quality. They just want you money.
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Old 2003-05-09, 12:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally posted by Hamma
LOTR = boring
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Old 2003-05-09, 12:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Meh,
I hate the Middle Earth world, I hate those plodding excuses for books and I think JRR Tolkien, aside from being an inspiration to many good authors, is useless /shrug
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Old 2003-05-09, 12:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally posted by Unregistered
It's Seirra.

They haven't made a bug free game since Kings Quest. Seriously. After the mess that was Tribes 2, and then the problems with Empire Earth I've come to the conclusion that Serria dosen't care about quality. They just want you money.
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Old 2003-05-09, 01:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
I hate the Middle Earth world, I hate those plodding excuses for books and I think JRR Tolkien, aside from being an inspiration to many good authors, is useless /shrug
The fact that the lord of the rings trilogy is the pinnacle of fine literature makes me think you don't read enough books
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Old 2003-05-09, 01:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally posted by Robot
The fact that the lord of the rings trilogy is the pinnacle of fine literature makes me think you don't read enough books
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I'll not knock Happy for his but I agree with you, Robot. Happy does make a good point about Tolkien inspiring other great authors.

I don't know if Tolkien inspired Robert Jordan but I really enjoy the Wheel of Time series.
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Old 2003-05-09, 01:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally posted by Jimbo
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I'll not knock Happy for his but I agree with you, Robot. Happy does make a good point about Tolkien inspiring other great authors.
Yeah, it is a good point that Tolkien has inspired other authors. My main beef is that, clearly, he wouldn't have inspired other authors if his work wasn't a monumental achievement in literature
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Old 2003-05-09, 02:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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The fact that the lord of the rings trilogy is the pinnacle of fine literature makes me think you don't read enough books

The pinnacle of fine literature? That's just so wrong

Monumental? Only in the sense that he opened the door for many fantasy authors to get published and widely distributed. Look at Doom, the game in itself wasn't really all that good. There was no plot, the conrtol scheme wasn't anything special and the graphics, while good for the time, could be done better by a 5 year old nowdays.

That's why I don't think Tolkien's work is all that impressive. The world and plot is so two dimensional it's like reading a technical manual for a microwave. It was a breakthrough for the fantasy genre yes, but compared to modern writing such as the Wheel of Time it's a painfully simple series that could be read by elemtery school students without any difficulty.

I'm not saying they're not decent books, just that the should not be regarded as some sort of holy grail. The fact that so many people cling to them like religious zealots cling to the bible is what makes me hate them
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Old 2003-05-09, 02:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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This is really really

Middle Earth Online was bought by Vivendi a long ass time ago. It's probably been in development for atleast a year... I didn't think it was any secret. Also, I would like to point out Sierra totally dumped this. They did make a MMO a shitload of a long time ago called "The Realm". Before UO time, it was pretty good. They sold that too though, but this one after it came out.

I guess they hadn't announced anything official, but this is really really
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Old 2003-05-09, 03:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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LOTR is to commercial now imo, shame really =/
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Old 2003-05-09, 04:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
Monumental? Only in the sense that he opened the door for many fantasy authors to get published and widely distributed. Look at Doom, the game in itself wasn't really all that good. There was no plot, the conrtol scheme wasn't anything special and the graphics, while good for the time, could be done better by a 5 year old nowdays.
But it was gold back then. That's the point.

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
That's why I don't think Tolkien's work is all that impressive. The world and plot is so two dimensional it's like reading a technical manual for a microwave. It was a breakthrough for the fantasy genre yes, but compared to modern writing such as the Wheel of Time it's a painfully simple series that could be read by elemtery school students without any difficulty.
Two-dimensional world? He spends nearly have the book describing every single lake, fyord and valley. He wonderfull ydescribes every city, every forest, every river, every battle. He fills in the rich history of the land without going into mounds and mounds of dialog from the wise elder of the forest tree monk describing what religion worshipped here 9000 years ago.

And the plot is simplistic, yeah; Hero finds magical ring, goes to evil place with rest of friends to destroy such ring so that evil lord can't rule the world. EVERY book has a simplistic plot, but it's in the way that the author executes it that counts, which is what Tolkien did flawlessly. It's not meant to be a wild conspiracy plot twist book, it's meant to be a fantasy adventure.

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
I'm not saying they're not decent books, just that the should not be regarded as some sort of holy grail. The fact that so many people cling to them like religious zealots cling to the bible is what makes me hate them
There's nothing wrong with enjoying a good book that much. Just as there's nothing wrong with people playing Everquest zealously to get to level 65 or someone looking all over the world to buy an original copy of a painting
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Old 2003-05-09, 04:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
That's why I don't think Tolkien's work is all that impressive. The world and plot is so two dimensional it's like reading a technical manual for a microwave. It was a breakthrough for the fantasy genre yes, but compared to modern writing such as the Wheel of Time it's a painfully simple series that could be read by elemtery school students without any difficulty.
Now I will have to disagree with you on that. The story may be easy to follow but reading them is not easy. Tolkien's writing style is not at all simple.

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
I'm not saying they're not decent books, just that the should not be regarded as some sort of holy grail. The fact that so many people cling to them like religious zealots cling to the bible is what makes me hate them
You hate them because so many people like them? What an odd reason to hate them and it contradicts your previous paragraph. At least, that is how I see it.

PS: I'm not trying to flame you Happy, just merely discussing.
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