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Old 2003-06-07, 10:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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The "Real" Bad Buys


In this big conflict of war...who's the bad guy? Or at least your view on who the bad guy is. Im still tryin to think if its the Vanu or the Terran...all the Vanu want is Domination, Terran want peace and order, but the NC broke away from the TR because of oppresion...so...?
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Old 2003-06-07, 10:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Re: The "Real" Bad Buys


Originally posted by Neohunter
In this big conflict of war...who's the bad guy? Or at least your view on who the bad guy is. Im still tryin to think if its the Vanu or the Terran...all the Vanu want is Domination, Terran want peace and order, but the NC broke away from the TR because of oppresion...so...?
They all want domination. The TR want it because, well, they've always had it! The NC want it, because they want to become the TR and the Vanu just want to further Alien technology. Vanu seem to have the weakest reason for fighting. Oh well. :o
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Old 2003-06-07, 10:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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The Vanu are fighting for survival, actually. They want to further the technology, and the TR are trying to wipe them out for it.
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Old 2003-06-07, 11:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Ahh, I stand corrected. Well then, it can't be Vanu, they are just fighting for survival. So, I guess it is just 2 people fighting for power, one fore freedom, and one for Peace and Order, I guess you decide.
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Old 2003-06-07, 11:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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its definately the Vanu...i mean look at em....just look at em...lol
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Old 2003-06-07, 11:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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I will now look at my sig and follow my own advice.
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Old 2003-06-07, 11:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Not only is it since I'm TR, it's also because of my personal opinions. It's Vanu Soverignty, they broke off from our Empire when they found the Vanu-alien technology, which is ours technically. We want our technology back and repremations must be paid! Now the New Conglomerate aren't push-overs, but their more of a glorified resistance movement, which we can most certainly handle. Back on-topic, Vanu have stolen our technology and the Empires property and we're taking it back NOW. So Vanu watch out, The Terran Empire will take back what is rightfully ours, and we will do it in force.


Nothing personal against any of you here, just faction pride
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Old 2003-06-07, 11:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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VS and NC fall under the same TR oppression. NC thinks VS are freaks that will and wanna change humanity to be more like the Vanu were. VS are for progess. Niether TR or NC like this concept. Thats why the NC look like gobots.
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Old 2003-06-08, 12:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally posted by FearTheAtlas
Not only is it since I'm TR, it's also because of my personal opinions. It's Vanu Soverignty, they broke off from our Empire when they found the Vanu-alien technology, which is ours technically. We want our technology back and repremations must be paid! Now the New Conglomerate aren't push-overs, but their more of a glorified resistance movement, which we can most certainly handle. Back on-topic, Vanu have stolen our technology and the Empires property and we're taking it back NOW. So Vanu watch out, The Terran Empire will take back what is rightfully ours, and we will do it in force.


Nothing personal against any of you here, just faction pride
If you read the sights, that's not the reason. The TR want a complete stop to all research into Vanu technology, and irradication of its remnants, they have destroyed many stockpiles of it and many ancient Vanu structures.
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Old 2003-06-08, 12:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Why must you burst my self-reassuring bubble?
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Old 2003-06-08, 12:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Well, ultimately the Vanu Sovereignty will destroy humanity. I'm all for it, but you may disagree, and then may also be bombarded with white hot plasma.
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Old 2003-06-08, 12:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I think the devs wanted to leave it to the gamer to come up with his or her own opinion regarding who's good and bad. Every empire can be placed on either side. New Conglomerate can be seen as freedom fighters or terrorists, Vanu as a cult or a group fighting to save humanity from itself, and Terran as either the opressive force or one fighting to restore peace in Auraxis.

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Old 2003-06-08, 12:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Nobody is the bad guy in this fight, it's all dependent on who you ask.

The NC want a society with more emphasis on personal freedom -- whether that is justified or not (for sure), we have no idea, but if you are someone who puts extremely high value on personal freedom, then the NC are probably the good guys to you.

The Vanu, however... they aren't "fighting for survival", as NeoTassadar put it, from what I can tell. Fact is that according to the backstory, the gate closed, the expeditionary force found these alien artifacts, but they didn't want to at once start tinkering with them. The Vanu did, so they horded them and eventually broke away, trying to use their new-found technology to win against the Terran Republic. If there's any side that I cannot relate to at all it's the Vanu. I enjoy my personal freedom, I respect and law and understand the need for authority in society, but the Vanu are fighting simply because they want to break off. There's nothing wrong with the Republic as far as they're concerned, it's simply that they aren't running it. So, yeah, the NC are OK to an extent with me, but the Vanu are just nuts.

As for the Terrans, loyalty until death, what more can I say? Someone who sticks with their committments and doesn't break off to make themselves the new Emperor (a la the Vanu), or to forge some hokey new society which will do nothing but set the stage for a new authoritarian society is A-OK in my books.
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Old 2003-06-08, 12:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Good thing our revolutionary forefathers weren't cut from the same stone as Warborn, here, or I might have to know the words to God Save the Queen.
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Old 2003-06-08, 12:50 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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And it's a good thing we didn't collapse after the 9-11 terrorist attacks, or we'd all be praying to Allah right now...

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...depends all on the way you want to look at things.

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